Taking a Breath: Dave and Jess on Rest, Renewal, and Reconnection

After 89 episodes, Dave and Jess Quak open up about taking a short, intentional break from producing the Sunburnt Souls podcast. This conversation dives deep into the rhythms of rest, spiritual renewal, and what it means to step back without stepping away.

They share honestly about attending to their inner life, protecting their marriage, finding God in the quiet, and letting go of performance and pressure. This is a heartfelt conversation about being human, listening to God, and trusting that pause doesn’t mean stop — it means prepare.

Episode Highlights

00:00 – 00:20 — Dave announces a surprise break for Sunburnt Souls
00:55 – 01:56 — Attending to the inner life and intimacy with God
02:41 – 03:08 — Dave’s plan: focus on God, marriage, and self-care
03:50 – 04:45 — Craving silence after seasons of constant noise
05:28 – 06:05 — Cultivating rhythms of quiet and presence
07:20 – 07:57 — Letting go of analytics and redefining success
08:41 – 09:34 — Working on marriage before problems arise
10:53 – 11:30 — Balancing ministry, work, and family demands
12:55 – 13:10 — Catching a giant Spanish mackerel (and having fun!)
14:22 – 15:33 — Encouragement for listeners heading into Christmas
16:34 – 17:48 — Giving and receiving love this Christmas
18:32 – 19:54 — The free course: Loving Life with Faith and Mental Health
21:44 – 22:51 — Jess closes in prayer for rest, renewal, and blessing

Reflection

This episode is a reminder that even in ministry and creativity, our souls need rest. Dave and Jess model how to pause without guilt, to listen for God’s voice again, and to protect what matters most — their relationship with God, each other, and their own wellbeing.

Maybe this episode is your invitation to take a breath too.

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Transcript

Welcome to Sunburnt Souls. You're with Dave and Jess, and on this show we speak about life, faith, and our mental well-being. Jess Quak, how are you doing?

00:00:08:04 - 00:00:10:06
Jess Quak
I'm great. Thank you for having me on again.

00:00:10:07 - 00:00:15:02
Dave Quak
I can't believe you took my last name, you lunatic. You had a choice and you took my last name.

00:00:15:02 - 00:00:16:04
Jess Quak
So you know I love you.

00:00:16:08 - 00:00:19:08
Dave Quak
You do love me. You do love me. But I have a surprise for you.

00:00:19:10 - 00:00:20:08
Jess Quak
Which is?

00:00:20:08 - 00:00:29:13
Dave Quak
Well, I am actually feeling like it's time to just take a little bit of a break from producing podcasts for Sunburnt Souls, just for the next little while.

00:00:29:15 - 00:00:32:06
Jess Quak
Hey, hey, what brought that on?

00:00:32:06 - 00:00:55:11
Dave Quak
About a lot. Dropping surprises on you? Yeah, all the things. I just realised that, you know, for the last 89 weeks, which is an awesome kind of run, we've been producing good content, and I'm so thankful for all the guests. And I'm so thankful for all the stories, and I'm mostly thankful for God, but I'm just feeling a bit fatigued going into the end of the year.

00:00:55:12 - 00:01:07:05
Dave Quak
I think at the moment there's enough of a bank of resources for people to go back and listen if they need to, while we just kind of think and recalibrate and pray about what Sunburnt Souls looks like starting next year.

00:01:07:07 - 00:01:13:02
Jess Quak
Okay. That's awesome. So you don't have an idea of how long you're going to be having a break for?

00:01:13:03 - 00:01:26:19
Dave Quak
No, I don't think it's going to be ages, but I think just till the end of the year or a little bit further, but it's going to be intentional. So I'm not just going to break and sit around and watch movies on Netflix, although there will be some of that, love. I was just reflecting with Mark this morning.

00:01:26:23 - 00:01:56:22
Dave Quak
Shout out to Mark. You really helped me see some good things in my life this morning, and so much of the attention as Christian leaders and Christian ministers of the gospel is how much to attend to the inner life, you know, and focus on our pure relationship with God and what it means to just walk in our sonship and daughtership and what it means to be known by Him and know Him, and then how much to overflow into doing things for Him, you know, and I think you need both.

00:01:56:24 - 00:02:33:08
Jess Quak
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. You can't have one without the other. The inner life is often attended to in the ‘as we go’ with Jesus. But yeah, we definitely need those times like Jesus did to retreat. And I want to say great job for actually really listening to that. It can be hard. And I think even for listeners going into Christmas to be able to have that permission, you’re sort of leading the way with going, okay, I'm going to be purposeful about my time over the next little while to attend to things.

00:02:33:08 - 00:02:40:24
Jess Quak
So do you have a plan around that yet, Dave? What is that going to look like for you? Do you know yet, or are you just still at the beginnings, just figuring it out?

00:02:41:00 - 00:03:05:02
Dave Quak
Well, you'll be happy to know. So firstly, I want to attend to my relationship with the Lord and then secondly, my relationship with you, which we'll talk about soon, and then also my relationship with myself, my own self-care and everything. And so the kids kind of fall under the relationship with you as a sub-branch of that. But, you know, like, I really want to attend to my relationship with the Lord not because it's bad, but because I don't want it to get bad.

00:03:05:02 - 00:03:08:12
Jess Quak
Yeah, yeah. Okay. So what does that look like for you?

00:03:08:14 - 00:03:29:13
Dave Quak
Well, there's a lot of people who—and I fall into this temptation—do ministry, and the only time we connect with God is for the ministry. So the only time you read the Bible thoroughly is when you're preparing for a sermon. Or the only time you know you're really praying is when you're praying over people.

00:03:29:15 - 00:03:50:04
Dave Quak
And so I know those things are part of my call, but I also have missed kind of, you know, sitting on the beach and just praying for the sake of it, or reading my Bible at leisure, you know, reading the Bible—Ephesians, which is the book where, you know, we’re preaching through now—but maybe grabbing a couple of Psalms, you know, something that's got nothing to do with what we're leading.

00:03:50:04 - 00:04:11:03
Dave Quak
Yeah. I also—look, I've shared this before—I'm not the sort of guy who always loves singing songs, okay? So, like, there’s a lot of singing songs at church, and that's cool, and I get how worship is through song, singing songs and stuff. But I'm not the guy who will sing in the shower or like in the car or whatever.

00:04:11:03 - 00:04:25:06
Dave Quak
I'm like, man, if you're going to be in the shower, I'll be quiet. Whereas I hear you guys—I mean, I hear, like, you sing—and then I hear Josiah's, like, crazy metal music coming out of the shower, and, you know, so I get that you guys are music-driven humans, but I am craving a bit of silence.

00:04:25:08 - 00:04:45:17
Dave Quak
Yeah, I feel like my ears are full. And so I want to get away and just read scripture quietly. Podcasting is noisy. I know that might sound weird, but because I do the interview, I line up the interview, then I edit the interview. I spend maybe five hours on each episode more than everyone else hears. Yeah, which is a blessing, but it's just noise and I feel like I just need a bit of quiet.

00:04:45:19 - 00:04:57:12
Jess Quak
Yeah, there's something about having the silence that makes you appreciate the value of each word. And to have that is pretty key. I have a feeling that could potentially be difficult for...

00:04:57:12 - 00:04:59:10
Dave Quak
You mean getting silent.

00:04:59:12 - 00:05:28:03
Jess Quak
Yeah. Yeah. It was sitting in the silence. You have been running very fast for a very long time. And sometimes that—from experience, and I've noticed for myself it's happened too—but sometimes when you're going flat, sometimes slowing down is a discipline as opposed to this sudden feeling straightaway of like, yay, I'm there. So how are you going to...

00:05:28:05 - 00:05:43:03
Dave Quak
Yeah, I don't know. I'll need help. Only prayer. I think it's a cultivating-of-rhythm thing. Yeah. Okay. You know, like, I'm not quiet in any phase right now, but if I start getting some quiet, I'm sure it'll lead to more quiet. Yeah, that's my assumption anyway. Do you think that's how it works?

00:05:43:05 - 00:05:45:22
Jess Quak
Yeah, I think so.

00:05:45:24 - 00:06:05:08
Dave Quak
I also do have a few good friends at the moment who are leaning into the inner life. Yeah. You know, and it's not only like your old sage-type guys. It's guys my age and younger even, who just want to, like, okay, we want to know what it's like to tap into my relationship with God. Yeah. Now, if you're listening, you might think, well, why can't you do both?

00:06:05:10 - 00:06:12:06
Dave Quak
I'm like, you absolutely can. Yeah. You know, but at the moment, I just feel like it's time to step into that a bit more intentionally.

00:06:12:09 - 00:06:44:20
Jess Quak
Yeah. It's interesting that you even mentioned that, being guys around your age. You're sort of at that middle-aged time of life when work is usually busy, probably the place where you've been promoted, so you have an area of responsibility. There's kids usually involved, and a lot of life is goal setting, you know, high performance. And it's often a time when guys either are drawn to go deeper with God and get that rest

00:06:44:20 - 00:06:56:04
Jess Quak
that's really necessary in Him, or be tempted to try and find that rest in substitutes found in the world that are more unhealthy. Yeah.

00:06:56:06 - 00:07:15:15
Dave Quak
Absolutely. I think everyone has a form of a midlife correction—I'm going to say that instead of crisis—and it's just whether you do it well or not. Yeah. You know, there'll be a time when you hit around 40 where you're like, is my life making any sense, or have I made a difference, or whatever? Yeah. You know, I've been through that already, but I still think it's one of those things we need to revisit and do

00:07:15:15 - 00:07:16:01
Dave Quak
well.

00:07:16:03 - 00:07:20:10
Jess Quak
Yeah. Every season looks different and has different demands, and you need to adjust as you go.

00:07:20:10 - 00:07:39:07
Dave Quak
Hey, yeah. One thing I want to do too, in the silence, is get off… like, so, with podcasting, there's a real inherent pressure to look at analytics and numbers and stuff. And I get that. That's fine, because you—you know, if you're an accountant, you're measuring the books. If you're a builder, you're measuring how, you know, straight the house is.

00:07:39:07 - 00:07:57:24
Dave Quak
So it's just a measurable. But at the same time, it can be a trap because you can start thinking that numbers represent success, or lack of numbers represents failure. Yeah. And that noise is something I'm kind of looking forward to having six weeks off or something. I remember Mark Sayers—you know him? Yeah. Mark Sayers—he’s a fellow bipolar.

00:07:58:02 - 00:07:58:23
Dave Quak
I don't know if you know that.

00:07:58:23 - 00:07:59:20
Jess Quak
Yeah, he's excellent.

00:07:59:22 - 00:08:24:07
Dave Quak
He's amazing. And he did an interview with Christianity Today, and he was talking about the same thing. When he, like, sold a book on the first day, the sales surged and he felt amazing. And then a few days later there was a slump day and he felt terrible. And he reflects that, like, we can't have our emotions—good or bad—determined by somebody else's, kind of like, analytics, or whether someone buys our books or listens to the podcast or something else like that.

00:08:24:10 - 00:08:41:18
Jess Quak
Yeah, yeah, that's where Paul talks to us about being content in every circumstance, hey. Yeah. Which isn't necessarily easy to do—something you need to fight for regularly. So one thing I noticed you did mention is you want to work on your relationship with me. What is that...

00:08:41:24 - 00:09:01:20
Dave Quak
Oh, I wasn't ready to go there, but I was like, you want—no, no, no. So Judah Smith—you know we love Judah. He's just about as crazy as a Living Temple pastor, I think. Like, he could become a wretched—Judah Smith, man. He wrote a book called Bad Thoughts: A preacher and the shrink’s guide to reclaiming your mind and soul.

00:09:01:22 - 00:09:20:03
Dave Quak
And he wrote that with his psychologist, Liz Parrott. And so the way that came about is that they were talking, and Judah had, as a megachurch pastor, seen other people in his city and, you know, in the nation, in the US, fall in different ways—a lot of the time because of marital issues. Yeah. And so what he did is like, well, we're good—

00:09:20:05 - 00:09:34:18
Dave Quak
him and Chelsea, his wife—like, okay, let's go see a psychologist now, while things are good, rather than wait for things to get bad. Yeah. And so that's kind of my motive towards leaning into us a little bit, is things are good, you know? And hang on. Did you just tell us a little—well, you should know that things are good. Look, we're going well. Yeah.

00:09:34:18 - 00:09:44:02
Dave Quak
So right now is a good time to actually sow into us. Yeah. Rather than wait till there's an issue.

00:09:44:04 - 00:10:03:09
Jess Quak
Yeah. The preventative pastoral care in your marriage, in relationship. And yeah, it's always better to be able to sort out the little things before they become big things, and sow into goodness. Yeah. And stuff, rather than just be addressing all the hard stuff.

00:10:03:11 - 00:10:22:17
Dave Quak
That's it. And look, the truth is 90% of people who have a bipolar person in their marriage get divorced—90%. And so we're not going to be that stat. So we're committed to getting through. Yeah. So, you know, I don't think we need a massive correction. But I also would like to sow into our marriage, especially as our kids are three years away from being adults.

00:10:22:17 - 00:10:36:10
Dave Quak
Both of them. I mean, our son turns 18 in less than a year. Yeah. You know, and so, you know, last night we were at the cricket and it's obvious that there's only a couple of years of family time, and, you know, so I want that to flourish now too.

00:10:36:13 - 00:10:41:13
Jess Quak
Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's good. So do you have any plans for how that's going to happen...

00:10:41:13 - 00:10:51:06
Dave Quak
Well, I'm not going to—look, no, not yet. I haven't thought about that. But I do want to reinstate date days. Yeah. So we catch each other and we go on dates and we hang out, but we don't have a date day.

00:10:51:09 - 00:10:52:02
Jess Quak
Yeah.

00:10:53:02 - 00:11:09:24
Dave Quak
My—I don't know if I should say this, but I'm gonna anyway. Because… I’ve got a friend who shall remain nameless, and on Friday, every Friday, he goes for a skinny dip with his wife, and then they hang out at home and go to the shops, and, you know, they just enjoy each other's company.

00:11:09:24 - 00:11:11:02
Jess Quak
Sounds awesome.

00:11:11:02 - 00:11:30:10
Dave Quak
Yeah, well, it sounds awesome. Yeah. Let's go swimming. And then—but, like, their marriage is so solid. And the truth is, at the moment I'm employed three days a week, you're employed two days a week, which means there should be four days for me and five days for you just left over spare somewhere, right? And there's just not.

00:11:30:10 - 00:11:48:24
Dave Quak
We are going hard between church and the podcast and the family and other ministries. Plus we're planting another church soon. Like, all of those things are huge. And so, I don't know, I just want to make sure to carve out some space and unashamedly and without guilt, just sow into the family.

00:11:49:04 - 00:12:09:17
Jess Quak
Yeah. It is interesting, isn't it, how there's the best of intentions sometimes with that stuff. But unless you're intentional—I had a friend actually pull me up on that last week, where she said, you know, there's a space that you can go, and now you need to get away. Sometimes there's space for you to go and get away.

00:12:09:17 - 00:12:29:23
Jess Quak
And I was like, that is awesome. I know I need to do that. I just need to find the time. She was like, you're not going to find the time. You have to make the time because it's not just going to happen unless you're intentional. And I was like, oh, yep. Yes. So right. And there's so many things I have

00:12:30:00 - 00:12:48:00
Jess Quak
done that, I suppose. And date days and stuff—they can feel a little bit self-indulgent, but actually it's really important to be taking care of the important things. Well, they may not be urgent, but they are important, and they need to be priority. So yeah, we're going to do that. It's going to be fun.

00:12:48:00 - 00:12:55:07
Dave Quak
It's good. And bless that you like the boat as well. We got blessed with a pretty cheap epic boat and it's Spanish mackerel season.

00:12:55:09 - 00:12:56:02
Jess Quak
Oh.

00:12:56:04 - 00:13:08:14
Dave Quak
I want to catch the biggest Spanish mackerel. I had coffee with a mate the other day, and he caught a 37-kilo one that was 172 cm long. Oh man. I want to beat him. You know what I mean? I want to go out and catch a big Spanish mackerel and eat it for the next four months.

00:13:08:15 - 00:13:10:11
Jess Quak
That sounds delicious.

00:13:10:11 - 00:13:31:20
Dave Quak
Yeah, yeah, I think about that too—a 37-kilo Spanish mackerel. It's like a grand's worth of meat on that thing. Yeah. You know, so, like, leaning into the fun. Yeah. And, you know, we're not dropping off the planet. Nothing's going to go chaotically wrong. But it is—oh man—I'm really salivating at the idea. You know, I can see behind you a Tozer book,

00:13:31:21 - 00:13:41:21
Dave Quak
you know, Praying Like Monks, Living Like Fools. You know, I just want to go to the beach and read that. Yeah, hopefully it's in his voice. You know, like when you read a book...

00:13:41:24 - 00:13:42:12
Jess Quak
It is.

00:13:42:17 - 00:13:46:24
Dave Quak
Yeah. No, no, but I've only got the paper book. But I just want to, you know—his voice is so chilled.

00:13:47:00 - 00:13:47:12
Jess Quak
Yes.

00:13:47:13 - 00:13:50:14
Dave Quak
How's he sound? He sounds a bit like a stoner, but not.

00:13:50:18 - 00:13:51:06
Jess Quak
Yeah.

00:13:51:08 - 00:13:53:11
Dave Quak
Like, you reckon?

00:13:53:13 - 00:14:03:07
Jess Quak
Yeah. And the audiobook—I'm pretty sure he reads it too. So it is quite enjoyable. It just makes you stop and slow down a little bit.

00:14:03:08 - 00:14:12:24
Dave Quak
Yeah. And if you don't know him, he's running the 24-7 Prayer movement at the moment, and also pastors the church that John Mark Comer planted. Is it called Bridgetown?

00:14:12:24 - 00:14:14:12
Jess Quak
Oh, I'm pretty sure it is.

00:14:14:14 - 00:14:22:12
Dave Quak
Just all these awesome guys that are shooting after intimacy with God. So I'm going to be learning from them, listening to them, enjoying myself.

00:14:22:14 - 00:14:55:20
Jess Quak
Yeah. So as your listeners come into Christmas time, it's usually a pretty big pastoral care time at church. Christmas often brings up a lot of stuff for a lot of people, whether it be family stuff, whether it be, you know, history stuff or that kind of thing. What would you encourage your listeners to be doing over this next time? You’ve sort of shared what you're doing and what your plan is to make sure you're looking after yourself over this period,

00:14:55:20 - 00:14:58:16
Jess Quak
but what do you think they should do?

00:14:58:18 - 00:15:13:18
Dave Quak
Yeah, I mean, it kind of sounds such a cliché answer as a pastor, but the first thing is to really connect with God. You know, like, over Christmas is an opportunity to really echo: who is this God? You know, not just to know about Him, but to know Him. And I figure Him out to be...

00:15:13:18 - 00:15:33:00
Dave Quak
You know, get some discipleship. And when I say discipleship, I mean talk to someone who's a bit more mature in their faith than you and say, will you show me how to do this? Like, how do I read the Bible? How do I pray? You know, get to know the real God. Because I think—my little hunch is that anyone who knows God and hates Him doesn't know the real God.

00:15:34:04 - 00:15:35:03
Jess Quak
Yeah.

00:15:35:05 - 00:15:52:19
Dave Quak
If you think God's a monster, you haven't met Him properly yet, because His love and grace and kindness is bigger than you could imagine. Yeah. And so this Christmas, like, it's not that He just wants to, like, oversee your life—as in provide, protect you, and those things. And He might want to, and that's awesome. But He wants to know you.

00:15:52:19 - 00:15:57:22
Dave Quak
So firstly, I'd get to know God. And secondly, man, I'd lean into my relationships with people.

00:15:58:02 - 00:15:58:19
Jess Quak
Yeah.

00:15:58:21 - 00:16:18:03
Dave Quak
You know, getting to know each other is vital. Let's be honest. Some people are the worst. Okay? Like, there are some people out there that are evil and terrible and want your demise. And they are no fun to be around. Okay, I'm not talking about those people. Pray for them if you want to. The Bible says you kind of should.

00:16:18:05 - 00:16:34:18
Dave Quak
I'm more talking about the people in your world who have your back—the ones who love you, right, the ones who are there for you. And they don't need to necessarily solve your problems or be professional counsellors, but they've just got to walk with you through your ups and downs.

00:16:34:21 - 00:17:03:07
Jess Quak
Yeah. That's awesome. I think within that as well, it's really important if you find that you don't have those people in your life. It often comes about from first investing in those people yourself too, because all relationships are a two-way street. As nice as it would be to just sort of walk around going, I need someone to look after me,

00:17:03:22 - 00:17:28:10
Jess Quak
that would be lovely, I suppose, for a while, but it is that time of giving as well. And Jesus shows us what a relationship of love looks like when He comes to the most humble of situations and circumstances to give of Himself. And so even in doing that, sometimes thinking outside of ourselves during this time can somewhat help us get out of...

00:17:28:10 - 00:17:48:08
Jess Quak
If you find yourself in a bit of a Christmas slump, and you've got a whole backlog of podcasts—yeah. So I don't know, some listeners might be a little bit like me and you—you don't necessarily like to listen to things out of order, or you might have missed a week and then gone, oh no, I'm not gonna have time to catch up.

00:17:48:08 - 00:17:59:15
Jess Quak
Or you had all the best intentions to really listen to one or to listen to another, and you haven't got the chance to. This is an opportunity to catch up, hey.

00:17:59:17 - 00:18:18:00
Dave Quak
There's 89 of them. Yeah, there's a lot—a lot of stories, a lot of great stories. You know, 89 stories. Not only that, we've also made our courses completely free. So all of them now. So there's one that I got produced that cost about four and a half grand to produce. And so we were charging 28 bucks.

00:18:18:02 - 00:18:32:00
Dave Quak
And then a couple of weeks ago I'm like, man, don't worry about it. Let's just give this thing to everyone who wants it. It's called Loving Life with Faith and Mental Health. And it's really good. It's so good. It's professionally done. And the four and a half grand was a deal from my friend. It should have cost more than ten.

00:18:32:02 - 00:18:41:00
Dave Quak
And so, like, listen to the podcast, have a listen to that. Even have a listen to other people that are speaking into the same space as well.

00:18:41:01 - 00:18:55:15
Jess Quak
Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I didn't know about you making that free till I got the email the other day. But I think it is such a great thing. I did that 30-day course and I would highly recommend that to me, and I—

00:18:55:17 - 00:18:57:18
Dave Quak
You did it every day, you beautiful thing.

00:18:57:19 - 00:19:01:24
Jess Quak
Did I? I like that. Oh, yeah.

00:19:02:01 - 00:19:05:04
Dave Quak
It's probably like, you know me—but you still thought it was...

00:19:05:04 - 00:19:09:20
Jess Quak
Valuable, right? Yes, I did, and I—I mean, I'm blunt. We've talked about—

00:19:09:24 - 00:19:14:04
Dave Quak
Two episodes ago. If you want to find out Jess like this, you can find out.

00:19:14:16 - 00:19:34:23
Jess Quak
I'll be honest with you, if I didn't think it was great—and I thought it was really great. And if you are looking for something to help keep your mental health on track over the Christmas season, 30 days of that is a great way to go about it. There are a lot of Advent resources that go around too in the lead-up to Christmas, which I would recommend. There's some really great things at any Christian bookstore.

00:19:35:00 - 00:19:54:23
Jess Quak
Check it out just a little bit every day. I think we need to not overwhelm ourselves with all the things that can be done, but just pick one thing to do a little bit every day. And the cumulative effect of that is huge.

00:19:55:02 - 00:20:15:05
Dave Quak
Yeah. So just in case anyone is worried, here's some questions and answers. Is this the end to Sunburnt Souls? Completely not. Absolutely not. This is us taking a rest so we can be better and come back and keep flourishing. So that's the first question. Are Dave and Jess burning out of ministry? No. We are here for the long haul.

00:20:15:05 - 00:20:30:03
Dave Quak
Jess is 40 and she still looks 20. We’ve got a long time to go in ministry before we've had enough—before we even—neither of us even have grey hair yet. I have a fat tummy, but that's the only indication that we're in our 40s, so we're still here for a long time.

00:20:30:05 - 00:20:32:05
Jess Quak
I think I might have one grey hair.

00:20:32:07 - 00:20:33:13
Dave Quak
I think you pulled it out.

00:20:33:13 - 00:20:34:23
Jess Quak
No. No way.

00:20:35:00 - 00:20:47:19
Dave Quak
Third, are Dave and Jess quitting the church? Oh, we love the church. We're not quitting. We're actually doing the opposite and adding another campus. So that's cool. We want to be able to focus on that.

00:20:47:21 - 00:20:54:10
Jess Quak
And then lastly, Dave, what do your listeners have to look forward to once this break is over?

00:20:54:11 - 00:21:08:20
Dave Quak
Just a refreshed Dave. New vision, new content, new, you know, interviews—just a little bit of a fresh look at things and reinvigoration and, yeah, just more of the good stuff. And hopefully it gets even better.

00:21:09:00 - 00:21:10:03
Jess Quak
Yeah. Wonderful.

00:21:10:05 - 00:21:31:00
Dave Quak
So thank you so much, sincerely, for everyone who's got behind us in these 89 episodes. We'll see you in—I reckon it's going to be about six weeks. Yes, I reckon about a six-week break, or maybe a couple of weeks longer. We'll come back and then we'll keep charging. And we just really love and appreciate your prayers and your insight and your encouragement.

00:21:31:02 - 00:21:44:03
Dave Quak
Like you said, there's a bank of 89 podcasts. So if you miss our voices, that's how you get it. And in order for you to flourish this Christmas, may you connect with God and each other. And Jess, can you pray for us as we finish up today?

00:21:44:07 - 00:22:13:11
Jess Quak
Absolutely. Lord, I thank you for Dave and the amount of time and effort and love he's put into this ministry in order that people can become equipped to love you and love one another well, no matter where their mental health is at, so that we can grow in our mental health. And for each and every listener listening right now, Lord God, I just commit them to you.

00:22:13:11 - 00:22:51:08
Jess Quak
I bless them in the name of Jesus. And I ask that as they step forward into whatever week or day or season that they're in, Lord God, that they can do the same as Dave in this time and find refreshment and hope and joy and love and light and laughter in you. And we just commit this time to you that Dave is having off—that the listeners will be encouraged and blessed by, you know, doing whatever it is that they will be doing over this time—and eagerly anticipating the return of Sunburnt Souls podcasts.

00:22:51:08 - 00:22:57:01
Jess Quak
And for Dave, that he will be fully refreshed in you as well. In Jesus’ name I pray, Amen.

00:22:57:04 - 00:22:57:24
Dave Quak
Amen.